Cheerleading Coach Fired Over Nude Pics – why is this news?

This story ticked me off the moment I saw it this morning on the Today Show. Here is the gist;

Cheerleading Coach poses nude for Playboy.
Cheerleading Coach gets fired.
Cheerleading Coach wonders why she got fired.

Media spins the story to one of revenge from a student who did not make the cheerleading squad.

Are you kidding me people? Where have our morals gone?

#1 Should she lose her job? UNDOUBTEDLY YES

#2 Is she a total bimbo queen? DITTO

 #3 Can she be a role model and a bimbo queen? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

#4 Is posing nude for Playboy a desperate act? YEP.

#5 If this woman worked at my daughters school, how would I react?

So, what does Carlie Beck have to say for herself?  Hear her video response on the Playboy site, its located right above this HUGE BANNER promoting her FULL NUDE pictorial, it looks like a porn site for gods sake.

Oh, and don't miss her "bio" and view her cheesy T&A pics on this classy ATV web site. She's listed as 105pds "dry weight." How lovely, her mama must be proud.

Tell me why women want to do this?

For the life of me, I really, really do not understand the motivation.

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37 Responses to Cheerleading Coach Fired Over Nude Pics – why is this news?

  1. Leamur says:

    Ohplease. Like the “cheerleading coach” “job” was anything but a gimmick to get the photo shoot. Her portfolio wouldn’t have made the first cut if she didn’t have a job that gave Playboy an excuse to make reference to teenaged girls.
    Her motivation is to make a living from her looks. It’s probably never been seriously explained to her that she has anything else to work with.
    Somehow “fashion victim” falls way short.

  2. Liz says:

    In general, women posing for Playboy, etc. doesn’t really bother me. If they find that empowering somehow, good for them. I’m not really irked by nudity and I don’t think women should have to smother their sexuality.
    HOWEVER. I don’t think a job that works closely with youth (such as being a cheerleading coach) and that kind of hobby go together.
    Perhaps I’d feel different if she was a college coach, but if these are underage (and naturally much more impressionable) girls she’s coaching then no, it’s not appropriate.

  3. .C. says:

    Empowering? You mean like, lipstick feminism, Liz?

  4. Mrs. B. says:

    Right before my daughter was hospitalized for a suicide attempt during the midst of the worst of her eating disorder, she posed for Playboy. And of course they selected her….5’6, 100 pounds. It was a desperate attempt for validation. But she’s beautiful. And they picked her despite her obvious poor health.
    This was a child who had been raped in high school and who had never shared it with anyone. This was the National Merit Scholar with a 4.0 G.P.A.
    The story that accompanied her picture was made up by Playboy. She hadn’t said any of it. She had told Playboy she was interested in neuroscience. They published that she was interested in dating around.
    You don’t the stories of these women or their motivations. We live in a sick culture and our young women are dying from it.

  5. Tamra says:

    You need to stop ASSUMING that because a woman does a nude photo-shoot that she is a bimbo or desperate.
    A woman’s choice to show her body or express herself in anyway she wishes to should be respected as long as that expression is regulated to the proper medium.
    This woman’s sexual expression was shown in a sexual magazine.
    It’s not like she took the images and plastered them on every billboard for unsuspecting small children everywhere to see.
    You are being overly judgmental in an instance which you have no right to be.
    You have no proof that this woman is desperate or a bimbo, and no, a nude photo-shoot is not proof.

  6. .C. says:

    I must agree with Tamra. Although Playboy might not be a great thing – see Mrs. B’s post; that is very, very sad – I disagree with you, MamaV, in that the woman deserved to be fired. What if a man posed in a male equivalent magazine? Would he be fired? Would anyone even notice that he’d done it, given that these magazines are much less popular than those that feature females? It was unfair to fire the woman, and unfair for us to judge her personal choices. If you disagree with her and she’s your child’s coach, tell them why you think she was wrong and hold her up as a negative example. Make your own choices, and allow her to do the same.

  7. Melissa says:

    I’m going to come at this from a totally different angle and say this whole story does a disservice to the sport of cheerleading, which took decades to be taken seriously and something like this, sets us back to the image of just a bunch of girls in short skirts. UGH.
    I cheered my whole life (through the end of h.s.) and by the time I was a senior, we were finally recognized as athletes, finally had garnered respect with our success as a team — which included going to Nationals to the UCA competition that was on ESPN this past weekend.
    Our coach was a serious athlete and treated cheerleading as a sport — she was brutal. That said, if she had a personal life on the side all about looks and flaunting a hot body … it would ruin our experience as members of her team/squad.

  8. mamaV says:

    Hi Tamra and C: I decided to take a strong position here- one I have not in the past.
    I used to say “to each her own,” meaning live your life and if it is not impacting me, so be it.
    This is impacting me, and you, and all women because I am just sick, sick, sick of nudity being the path to “success” for a great majority of women.
    I can judge this if I care to and I will because someone has to be a voice of reason in this whacked culture.
    I can say she looks like a bimbo because to me, she does. She loses every ounce of credibility with this nude spread.
    Listen – if you choose to pose nude, so you can be deemed “hot” by the opposite sex, than you’ve got to be able to take the heat from women who think you are a sell out.
    MOST IMPORTANT: This woman is in the school system for gods sake. She teaches young girls (cheerleading no less, a “sport” focused on shaking your “money maker”).
    Cripes, if you can’t see the problem in this situation then
    A) you likely don’t have kids
    B) you would likely like to do something similar.
    C) you have done something similar and you are defending your deed.
    To Mrs. Bs personal story, thank you for posting this. Your daughter is a perfect example of how our young people get taken advantage of when they are seeking validation.
    This entire thing is just totally and completely pathetic.

  9. .C. says:

    Alright MamaV, I see your point. I haven’t posed nude and I wouldn’t – I’m simply not confident enough, for one thing. I think I look terrible naked, probably like the majority of women on this site. No, I don’t have kids (and not planning on it) so you’ve got me on experience there. It still gets to me though that a woman gets so much flack that she loses her job from this! I mean, OK, so you want to blast her on your blog for it. Makes sense; it’s a forum for expression. But do you think it’s fair that she was fired? Why is it the school’s business? And what about the point I brought up about men – I bet a man wouldn’t be fired for such a thing. I’d love to hear your thoughts on what the reaction to a man’s similar behavior would be. I admit freely it is an interesting debate…

  10. cuileann says:

    I agree with you, mamaV. Self-objectification is not just a personal issue.
    Ah, but I am looking forward to the day when I can read a woman’s height and weight without running to the BMI calculator…hah.

  11. Meryt Bast says:

    I agree with Liz. This woman might not have been exploited, but a girl seeking the same notoriety might take her as a positive example and wind up suffering at the hands of the unsavory and unscrupulous. Moreover, what a teacher or coach does on his or her own time *does* matter to the administration, because it reflects on the school, for good or ill. I think that a male coach posing nude in a similarly sexually explicit forum would also be fired, and IMO, rightly so.
    (This is the 10000th time I’ve tried posting. Is Mercury retrograde already??)

  12. Meryt Bast says:

    PS – in the interest of full disclosure, I occasionally model for artists, and sometimes a project requires nudity. I don’t do anything I would be ashamed to show my mother, and every artist I’ve worked with has been 100% professional.
    What with sexting and “The Girls Next Door,” I worry about the messages girls (and boys) are receiving about themselves; do they know they’re more than bodies for others to enjoy? I fervently hope so.

  13. simone says:

    i understand your purpose is to enhance the self-esteem of young women, but i believe this posting to be counter-productive because of the way you are passing judgment on this woman.
    you should try to understand that everyone may not share the same values as you about what is “right” or “respectable” for a woman to do.
    i think that regarding this women a “bimbo” is misogynistic and perpetuating of stereotypes.
    you should be aware that by keeping this blog, you are somewhat a role model and seen as coming from a place of authority. you are entitled to your own opinion of course, i just don’t believe it should be used in this context.
    after all..
    isn’t perpetuating judgments on someone you don’t know based on something you read or heard- part of the problem you’ve been addressing all along?

  14. simone says:

    and a response to the above retort..
    for the record.. yes i do believe that it is wrong that nudity is thought of as a way to heighten a women’s success.
    but to say to the person who takes a different view: A) you likely don’t have kids
    B) you would likely like to do something similar.
    C) you have done something similar and you are defending your deed.
    there’s a lot of bitterness in those statements.

  15. Mrs. B. says:

    Jea and I had a lot of discussions about this topic, obviously. We both feel that pornography and nudity outside of art are exploitive.
    She was ultimately ashamed and horrified about what she had done.
    It in no way represents her values.
    She was literally crazy in her head at the time and was doing all kinds of crazy things….often in an alcohol emboldened state.
    She was suicidal. All of her “confidence” was a sham.
    Many eating disordered women possess something called black/white thinking…particularly if they are the victims of abuse. They see themselves as either all “good” or all “bad”. No happy medium. She was acking out on “bad” at the time.
    All that said, when the magazine came out, there was also a pictorial on the internet promoting it. Jes was horrified. It was a year after she had posed for it and she had had a lot of therapy and in many ways was a different person. She called the magazine and spoke with the representative and told her what had been going on in her life and they took the picture off the web. Immediately. I give them a lot of credit for that.
    Jes did not appear at any of the media events for publicity.
    She was under a false name in the publication.
    Nobody has ever said anything to her about the publication in the magazine. That’s not EXACTLY trule a couple of guys who knew her in hs saw it and called her amazed. She was an egghead in high school and a cheerleader. To say the least, it was out of character. As an aside, cheerleading at our school was a rigorous sport. Her high school was routinely in a top spot at UCA nationals and all the girls on the squad were former gymnasts. They were in no way a booty shaking style. They wore conservative uniforms, did precision stunts and dances and killed everyone else. Every girl on the squad had a standing tuck and a back handspring full….if you know what that means. Good cheer squads aren’t anything like a lot of people think they are.
    That being said, Jes does want to teach someday. I don’t know if this will surface and derail that. It could. But I suspect that she will be able to go somewhere else to teach if she handles it quietly.
    People do things that they are ashamed of in life and you do the best you can to repair them. You live with consequences.

  16. Ellie says:

    Something about your post bothered me, but I couldn’t put a finger on what. I thought about it for a day before commenting.
    I think that what it is, is the tone of judgment. Yes, this woman should be fired from her job working with teens. And frankly, I can’t help but think that she is not a person I would like much.
    But at the same time, calling her a bimbo, but at the same time admitting that this is “a desperate” act” seems, well, disparate. Is she a victim or is the the enemy?
    Perhaps both. I don’t know.

  17. pageantL says:

    wait, “dry weight,” is that how much one weights when they are dehydrated?

  18. Tamra says:

    I do not endorse what this former coach did and, while I personally disagree with the school system’s choice to terminate her, I understand the reasoning behind the decision.
    However, your strong “opinion” can be simply whittled down to “What a whore.”
    And, because she chose to display her body, you have decided that whatever credibility, talent, or intelligence this woman has is meaningless.
    It’s the same type of objectification you are fighting against in your whacked out culture.
    To the male who overly appreciates her photos, and to you who disdains them, she is just “T and A”.
    I also have to admit to thinking that if this was a “plus-sized” or heavy-set woman, your condemnation wouldn’t be as strong. Probably due to the fact you’d be happier to see larger-sized women being shown as sexually desirable.

  19. .C. says:

    Right on with your last comment, Tamra. What if the cheerleading coach was overweight, MamaV?
    As for the whole cheerleading debate, I have to say that you get both sides. I’ve never cheered, but I’ve met cheerleaders who were complete b****es and bimbos, as well as one of my friends in college who is quite intelligent and kind. Granted, she does have a PERFECT body but she just has a high metabolism.
    Also, I want to know what “dry weight” means too. Is it what you weigh when you’re literally dry, as in have not just stepped out of a lake/shower/swimming pool? Perhaps I should hit up google…

  20. Jill says:

    I agree with Ellie. I think what bothers me most about this is that while you are certainly allowed to voice a strong dissenting opinion… you’re blaming the woman. You don’t know her or her story… and isn’t this ALL a result of our messed up culture? Maybe she’s really insecure and did it for validation… you’re going to shun and alienate her for that?
    Maybe if she had some “wiser” women in her life to say “hey, you know you don’t need to be validated like that, you are beautiful no matter what and you are worth more than your body or your image” and took her under their wing maybe she, and others of her (supposed) mindset would understand and embrace feminism, and themselves.

  21. mintchocolatechipsarah says:

    i don’t feel that being features in a male magazine necessarily excludes one from having other jobs(even those involved with children). Unless she was promoting her pictorial to students or encouraging her cheerleaders to pose then these are two parts of her life that can, and should remain separate. I do however, think it was in poor taste (is playboy ever really in good taste) for playboy to advertise her in the magazine as a cheerleading coach as opposed to just having her pictured. For all your talk of accepting people for their life choices you are decidedly judgmental.

  22. Liz says:

    I said “IF they find that empowering SOMEHOW”, C. I was posing a plausible reason for her behavior not trying to defend it. Many woman DO find posing nude empowering and/or liberating.
    I, personally, would never pose nude because I hate the way my body looks. And I don’t think it’s something you should be doing if you are also trying to be a coach, leader, or role model for young kids.
    But at the same time, opposing mamaV’s very generalized and strong opinion, I DO NOT think that having posed nude automatically makes you of lesser intelligence or value as a person.

  23. Liz says:

    I also got to thinking for a moment about a point mamaV made about being a parent in one of her replies.
    Now, I don’t have children myself, but I work very closely with them at a Daycare (a CHURCH-run Daycare no less) and this kind of defense has always deeply frustrated me.
    I can’t tell you how often I see kids come into the Daycare decked out in High School Musical/Miley Cyrus merchandise, etc. And these are two shows with leading actresses who have taken nude/wet shirt/offensive photos and yet the parents continue to allow their kids to watch these shows and movies and support the stars by buying the merchandise.
    So to say that being a parent is a reason to be so strongly against posing nude strikes me as just obscenely hypocritical.
    Either parents are turning a blind eye to these things so that their kids can remain entertained, or they just don’t care.
    And I’m not saying ALL parents continue to support these celebrities/condone their behavior, but obviously a vast majority do if those girls are still so successful.
    Oh, and by the way, they DIDN’T lose their jobs. Despite being nothing BUT role models and idols for young kids.

  24. .C. says:

    Liz, I wasn’t trying to blast you, I was honestly asking if that’s what you meant. No need to get defensive.
    Any word yet on the definition of ‘dry weight’?

  25. s says:

    I agree with Mamavision. How low must our society go for people to understand that their identities are not based solely on their bodies?
    People should understand that things that are logical are not always moral.

  26. Kristi says:

    I’ve posed nude, I’ve stripped, and I’m also pretty damn smart, not a bimbo at all. The two dont go hand in hand.

  27. Liz says:

    I apologize, C, the thing about the internet is, it doesn’t get across tone very well. Your comment just seemed sarcastic XD Anyways, I suppose yes, lipstick feminism would be a good term for it.
    And I think dry weight refers to your weight…literally not wet. As in not in a wet t-shirt? Or in any clothes. I think it’s THAT kind of insinuation, if you get my drift.

  28. Meryt Bast says:

    “Dry weight” is an automotive term, meaning without any cargo. The model’s profile at the ATV website is done as if she were a vehicle; her “suspension” is her bust size, etc. I’m sure it’s supposed to be cute, but it comes of as creepy, IMO.

  29. .C. says:

    Weird. Just… weird. And no worries, Liz – the internet does eliminate tone, you’re totally right.

  30. yanyb says:

    MamaV, I’ve been a good fan for a long while now, but this entry is awfully offensive. I’m disappointed.

  31. Meryt Bast says:

    Should be “comes OFF as creepy.” Yeesh.

  32. Ellie says:

    I keep thinking about this post and the comments.
    Another thing that’s really bothering me is the number of women who post comments saying that they wouldn’t pose nude because they hate their bodies, or that they have a friend with a perfect body.
    Now, don’t get me wrong, lots of women feel that way and I can understand why. Even if you ARE “perfect, it’s hard to love your body in this culture.
    But I hope for a time when “a perfect body” means a *healthy* body and women love themselves naked even if they aren’t likely to be invited to pose for Playboy.
    And I hope for a time when *women* aren’t reinforcing the concept of “perfect body” meaning “Playboy centerfold body.”
    And back to the matter of this woman’s firing. I asked my husband what he thought about this today and he made a good point. He said “well, what she did isn’t illegal. Did her contract have a morality clause in it?” If not, well, maybe it should, but I’m not sure if her firing WAS just after all. Even though I would be pissed if my teenage daughter were being taught by her.
    Anyhow, just some thoughts.

  33. Amanda says:

    I agree with MamaV. When I see that a woman has posed nude for these type of magazines it instantly lowers my opinion of them. And don’t think it doesn’t lower a man’s opinion either. Let’s be realistic here. A guy would see that and instantly think about he wants to get her in bed, for her to do this and that, and when it was over brag to his buddies. I find the excuse from women that this is “empowering” to be sad. How is it empowering that you were proud to pose nude and essentially be jack off material for some guy?
    If you want to do this, fine. But I will have a lower opinion of you as will others. And would I have this same opinion of man? Yes. It’s a cheap way to gain some notoriety for doing nothing more than getting naked. (e.g., Paris Hilton).
    On the firing point… If she had been a waitress, accountant, lawyer… I wouldn’t care to hire her to be my accountant or lawyer, but she shouldn’t be fired. But being a high school cheerleading coach or if she had been a high school/middle school teacher of anything, than she should have been fired. Children are incredibly impressionable,and this is not something I want impressed on them until they are capable of making a mature and educated decision.

  34. jenny says:

    I don’t think you need to be so judgmental about this.
    So the two options for women, according to you, are chaste and pure school teacher, or disgusting playboy slut? That’s disgusting. That’s the same virgin-whore standard enforced by the patriarchy and I can’t believe that you’re enforcing it as well.

  35. Tres Bien says:

    Wow this entry just lost any respect I had for you.
    So she should loose her job, and is a bimbo for feeling comfortable in her own skin huh? So what if she poses for Playboy? That isn’t your business or anyone else’s, so what if someone buys this magazine and see’s her? Well then aren’t they just as bad for looking at the magazine? At least she’s not sitting there having sex with a horse or something. Come on now.
    Go you Mamavision.
    Stop being a hypocrite and get off of your self righteous box, you don’t even know this lady.

  36. Amanda says:

    Jenny – I’m not 100% you’re replying to me, but if you are…
    Yes, I can be judgemental about this.
    There are things in life that are right and wrong. Things that are stupid and smart, and actions have consequences. We’ve gotten so bloody PC that you can’t say anything about anything and it has led us into this, “I don’t like it, but it’s ok for you.” No, I’m over it. I tolerate someone’s stupidity, that does not mean I agree with it or even actually that think that would be smart on Mars or something.
    Am I frustrated at woman for seeming to be so idiotic to think that by spreading their legs their empowering themselves? Yes! But don’t think that does not mean I leave men out of responsibility. I have put up with men that thought looking at Playboy, Penthouse, and lad’s rags (Maxim) were perfetly fine. I have put up with men over a lot of things that current society dictates says is now PC. No!
    Virgin-whore standard? I stated that I felt she was idiot, and would have no respect for her. If she were a lawyer, fine. Be an idiot. But, with her working with kids is not acceptable. And realize greatly that our children are not so innocent… When did it become acceptable to just throw up our hands and say, “Kids aren’t innocent anymore,” and not fight and show some outrage that kids should still be kids?
    You want to present yourself as a slut, ok. But don’t think that you are this higher being because you make a living by selling yourself essentially. People don’t respect you, women resent you, and men find your issue to be 30-seconds of jack-off material. I think we need to get irritated at both things… don’t think you need to show your body to get respect, and knock some men upside the head that think they can think of people as pieces of furniture.

  37. mk says:

    If our culture wasn’t so puritanical about the nude body, we would not also fetichize the nude body a la play boy. We need to get over this fear of sexuality and nudity in order for misogynists to stop capitalizing on it.

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